tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post3449404470219307245..comments2024-03-11T22:58:24.241-07:00Comments on Dr. Preston's Literature & Composition: November 10Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-23784002227894103962011-11-18T07:04:35.990-08:002011-11-18T07:04:35.990-08:00Finally found the post!
Anyways, I believe that ...Finally found the post! <br /><br />Anyways, I believe that while teens, and most adults as well, do only check the first couple pages of google when researching something, that happens mostly when the subject their researching is one that they don't really care for. They're looking for the quick answer. Like when I have to find something for a history class I just type it in and try to find the quick answer, but if I was looking for the correct lyrics of a favorite song, or some pop culture history I usually try to ask around on the internet or go to a bunch of sites to figure out the absolute correct answer. <br /><br />If we care about something we're going to work harder for it, rather than the less than perfect way we would go about it if it were just an assignment to get points. Although, sometimes we can chock that up to not knowing your way around the internet. I assume because I have more practice with html codes and RSS feeds than other students because I've spent more time with them, I might be able to navigate my way around the internet better. However, no one is perfect and there is always room for improvement, seeing as no one knows everything about the internet... how could they?<br /><br />It's possible that what we aim towards is a level in which we are most comfortable just because we were brought up that way. We will lean towards the most used, the popular one, because we think that if everyone else is using it it must be correct. But if we truly want to be able to navigate the internet, we have to trash those beliefs and step out of our comfort zone. That's the time in which we will get the best information.<br /><br />But the best thing around the internet is you can ask. And not enough people think of that as a viable option. If we band together, we can learn more efficiently and the things we learn will be less fictionalized then some things we could find on the internet.<br /><br />Savanah Lyon<br />p.2Savanah Lyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08294412909581013162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-51181783550583694972011-11-15T10:14:48.731-08:002011-11-15T10:14:48.731-08:00I had always used the first few pages on a google ...I had always used the first few pages on a google search only because I assumed that they were the most visited making them the most reliable, but reading these two articles made me discern that this isn't always true. How Pappas criticized our grabbing the first "low-hanging fruit" made me realize how inexperienced I am for being a "digital native". <br /><br />Just like kids are taught to use tools like pencils, books, and calculators the internet should should be on the list of lessons taught to children in elementary. Instead of digital natives, ideas and criticisms like these make me think that we might be immigrants in our own land.Gilbert C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16836334837347750681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-89008419658542999772011-11-15T10:13:14.097-08:002011-11-15T10:13:14.097-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gilbert C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16836334837347750681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-55340949565735823712011-11-15T08:07:11.471-08:002011-11-15T08:07:11.471-08:00Both articles make very good valid points about te...Both articles make very good valid points about teens and the way they search for information online. I myself do the same thing by just simply going into google and visiting the first few sites that google takes me to without going any further into the search. It is very important to know where your information is coming from, and it's almost shocking that kids are not taught these skills in order to better analyze it and make their own assessments valid with information<br /><br />Chelsea Stevenson<br />Period4Chelsea Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07820688246952011376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-3823950971777688092011-11-15T06:35:29.454-08:002011-11-15T06:35:29.454-08:00I agree that a good majority of the time kids do c...I agree that a good majority of the time kids do choose from the top of the page and don't search in depth. I usually look a little more than that, but not as much as I probably should. After reading these articles I think that students in this day and age need to be taught how to correctly search for info online. It's only a matter of time until everything will be online and if you can't properly get facts then what's the point really? <br /><br />Matthew Giddings p.3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-90170288651418309112011-11-15T05:58:27.280-08:002011-11-15T05:58:27.280-08:00I have known that most people only used the first ...I have known that most people only used the first couple pages if not just the first in any research that they do simply out of laziness. I was alarmed though at the fact that many kids could not tell fact from fiction on the various sites they looked up. I am not much better than in the fact that I look up major college articles such as the ones from Stanford or well known newspapers like The New York Times if I am actually taking a research project seriously. I really do hope that schools will add how to be search savvy as part of their “teach to the test curriculum”, but that is a far hope indeed. I wouldn’t mind taking a lesson or two on my own during lunch if it were offered at school because I would be learning a skill that would be vital to have in college if not for the rest of my life. I mean, what is the whole reason we go to school if we are not learning things that will prepare us for the rest of our lives? This is a valid tool that anyone should know and is becoming ridiculous that we as “digital natives” can not use the tools we were essentially raised with.<br />Jon Hoffman Period 2Jon Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17125576162960613959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-33329997115961966562011-11-14T22:32:33.246-08:002011-11-14T22:32:33.246-08:00I would have to agree with the article on the fact...I would have to agree with the article on the fact that some students don't use the searchenginenand Internet to it's fullest. Some students just type in a word and got to the first result in order to grab all of their information. This does not mean that students are estranged to the Internet, it merely reflects the search habits one has. The mentallity of a teenage student is that all research is pointless because it doesn't captivate their attention or it just doesn't seem like a priority. the search engine is also to blame because of the search results it shows first. The results are so popular that one thinks it would be foolish to continue searching for information. Thus the articlenis correct to a degree.<br /><br />Carlos Cruz, Period 3C.Cruzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14682535920024560898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-80936232202569073172011-11-14T22:08:33.621-08:002011-11-14T22:08:33.621-08:00I was interested to see how both articles began th...I was interested to see how both articles began the same way and talked about teh same issue. I believe that teens today usually always go with the search results found at the top of the page because it saves them time when it comes to completing a school assignment. For all i know everytime i do research online i can be getting false information because i don't pay attention to the author or why it was put online in the first place. Dr. Preston has tried to t4eaqch us how to be safe onlin ebut not how to search for accurtate information, I'm guesing this is the next step in successfuly surfing the web. I completely agree with both articles on thier opinio about schools doing wrong by thinking that using a firewall on their computers is going to cut it. There may be budget cuts and all but there is always pen and paper to give them pointers. Students are protected from getting unappropiate results online but they are still in danger of getting false information impending them from learning the right things. <br /><br />I dont believe that it is all the schools or teacher's fault that students are uneducated in this area. Yess, teachers are meant to help students learn skills about how to properly surf the web but students need to also stop being lazy. I personally know that teachers have told us how to check the author of a website or article online but the question is...do we take the time do it everytime we read or watch something online? of course not because that would take up more of our "fun" time. Teachers can only help us if we put into [ractice what they teach us already. The internet is a dangerous world and the same way it can have millions of right answers, it can have millions of wrong answers.<br /><br />-Marie Alvarado<br />Per.3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-30936690491674212662011-11-14T21:42:00.239-08:002011-11-14T21:42:00.239-08:00Reading both this articles I realized that I tend ...Reading both this articles I realized that I tend to click on the first two links I see. From my perspective I usually think that their the most reliable sources of information, But reading this articles I realize that its actually the opposite. What caught my attention was the different methods you can use in order to validate the link or website. Exploring different links, comparing different websites, and analyzing the different tones presented. I agree with the fact that schools should teach students how to successfully search for online information with the capability of knowing what is fact or fiction.ricohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099741422240634339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-36834872098851556592011-11-14T21:35:21.609-08:002011-11-14T21:35:21.609-08:00Both articles made really good points reguarding t...Both articles made really good points reguarding the way teenagers today search things online. i have to admit, I do the same thing. I go to google and search for what i need and just check the first websites that pop up. Sometimes changing the key words in the search box. After reading these articles I realize that it is important to know where your information is coming from and if it is valid. We are all guilty of just reading what the internent says and never really knowing if the information is valid or not. We are making a change and taking a step up, because Dr. Preston has begun teaching us about the internent, and the many different, responsible ways to use it.<br /><br />Tori Thompson Period 3T.Thomp3https://www.blogger.com/profile/17804695655472839094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-67765028643190199652011-11-14T21:32:14.328-08:002011-11-14T21:32:14.328-08:00I think, and it's clear from all the other ans...I think, and it's clear from all the other answers that others think too that this should be taught in school. Teaching children and other people to properly search for validified information is way more critical and practical than a lot of the things we are "taught" here. We must also find some way to circumvent the laziness that comes natural to a lot of us.<br />Tyler Stewart Period 3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-64225125178498826022011-11-14T20:56:08.897-08:002011-11-14T20:56:08.897-08:00Teenagers these days are obviously getting more an...Teenagers these days are obviously getting more and more lazy as the days go on, so of course when we are searching something online (usually Google) we are going to pick one of the first few topics on the page. But we never choose to take the extra time to verify if what we are using is the actual truth. However, with the entire world having the abitlity to post anything they want to the internet, how are we supposed to know what is real truth and what is an educated statement of someone's opnion? Teachers are always telling us to double check our work and make sure what we have is right, but I just don't get how we are supposed to know if we are right when we are not exactly sure what is wrong.<br /><br />Gabby Cuevas Per.2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-67048335390432191982011-11-14T19:44:48.368-08:002011-11-14T19:44:48.368-08:00The way the authors of these pieces seemed to desc...The way the authors of these pieces seemed to describe “digital natives” as those who should know everything there is to know about digital media. In contrast, I believe that “digital natives” perfectly describe my generation because we are native to that landscape and are learning about it. I believe that the mood of the opposing argument expects us to know how to run the internet as if we were the creators of it.<br />Like many people mentioned before, as well as the articles, there are not many resources in the average high school to teach students more about the internet.<br /><br />Rebecca Patterson per.6Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-72807210807248717962011-11-14T19:38:18.222-08:002011-11-14T19:38:18.222-08:00Today, a lot of us search online with the primary ...Today, a lot of us search online with the primary website of Google and we accept the first few links. Like myself, I don't really look more into the answers I am given. We haven't been taught to really research online and what links are the right ones. However, I don't know if there is a way we can be taught to do this in school. We should be able to learn on our own. I know now we all rely on the internet to give us the correct answer, but what we don't realize is what we sometimes have right in front of us can lead us into the wrong direction.<br /> We need to learn to think critically like the articles say and judge the information we are given. What use are the basics if we can never move forward with the correct information. Society now and in the future need to evaluate every little thing and critically think or we will be stuck with clicking the first link that pops up on Google. <br /><br />Briana Derr<br />Period 3Briana Derrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07959304387049847090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-67631111951461712622011-11-14T19:07:10.429-08:002011-11-14T19:07:10.429-08:00This article raises a very valid point, but I don&...This article raises a very valid point, but I don't completely agree. With this idea at hand, I must admit I get sucked into choosing my first couple choices on a search engine, but this is not true for just students. Some kids these days, we admit, are lazy, and they simply don't care to validate any information; they trust the internet. Having that said, people really haven't been taught not to trust what they read on the internet. Students as well as adults don't use the internet to the best of it's ability due to filters, but if better informed I feel more internet users will catch on to the idea of verifying their sources <br /><br />"In 1955, we wondered why Johnny can’t read. Today the question is, why can’t Johnny search?" The idea of Johnny reading and searching is the same thing to me. I feel the point of this quote doesn't validate their ideas that are being portrayed. Johnny can be a bad reader just as he can be a bad searcher. The fact is that just because a person can read doesn't mean they are understanding or learning, just as in searching online. Kids had to teach themselves to read between the lines just as they will need to do with search engines; they need to work harder for the truth. A student can search for anything and come up with a legit answer, but until they check their sources and validate their information everything they read could be a lie, making them a "bad" searcher.<br /><br />I do not feel that this idea of being a better "internet searcher" needs to be taught at school. I feel that it should be mentioned to kids as time goes on, but as for adding it to a curriculum, I don't agree. We learned the internet on our own, why can't we learn to better our internet searches on our own as well? Yes, some kids are lazy with this idea, but those who want to succeed with the correct knowledge will re-teach themselves on this and be more mindful on their searches. The internet is a crazy place, but we are the "tech savvy" generation and I feel we should learn to utilize our information to the best of our ability on own, like we discovered the internet in the first place. <br /><br />Shannon Murray<br />period 3Shannon Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00782767283498889019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-75762580927701930332011-11-14T18:34:13.990-08:002011-11-14T18:34:13.990-08:00As basically everyone stated before, many of our g...As basically everyone stated before, many of our generation are terrible at researching. I think its due to the fact that those teaching us did not know how to properly research on the internet. I remember being taught how to research things at libraries or by usung encyclopedias. I also remember using Ask Jeeves and Google, although I did recieve a few guidlines I was never truly taught how to tell which sites were useless. It is definitely something we should be taught at a young age. Looking back, elementary school was just loads of mindless busy work, and if we were lucky we would get taught how to play an instrument like the recorder. Instead of that kids should be taught how to properly use computers and search engines. We're just a bunch of cavemen with burning sticks.ptrujillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08133680998786647509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-5861156551325027742011-11-14T18:04:07.691-08:002011-11-14T18:04:07.691-08:00How many times has Dr Preston told us that Wikiped...How many times has Dr Preston told us that Wikipedia is a great place to start, but a horrible place to end? A million, at least. And this is what i was thinking about the entire time I was reading these articles. The internet is a place with information galore, but how much of it is really fact? Anyone with internet connections can publish their thought and make them believable to anyone out there. I find it interesting that until now, students are being trained to avoid such ploys.Jake Dam-Mikkelsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14607610313112428901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-17696591840811980382011-11-14T17:54:53.357-08:002011-11-14T17:54:53.357-08:00I can tell you from personal experience that when ...I can tell you from personal experience that when I have to research something I go to google and look at the first few things that come up because I'm lazy, and I know I'm not the only one. Schools offer computer classes but only as electives, and in elementary school when they should be starting computer education they only teach typing. We are moving into the future and computers are part of our daily lives, many of us carry them in our pockets, we need to learn how to properly use our resources to take full advantage of them. Program or be programmed. We may be digital natives our generation is still trying to figure a lot of technological things out because technology is growing along with us. It's very necessary we learn how to research things properly so we don't end up with false information, but a big part of it is our own ambition.Brynn Greenelshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00166138665632598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-21651380715224862932011-11-14T17:34:13.301-08:002011-11-14T17:34:13.301-08:00I'm not going to lie, whenever I have to resea...I'm not going to lie, whenever I have to research something I automatically go to the first few links and stop there. If the topic actually interests me then I will go to several other sources and even go to the second or third page of results. Shocking, I know. However, it is because we have become to trusting of google. We all know that the internet is full of lies, but when it comes to a research project, students don't typically want to spend hours searching through the several pages of results that google brought up. If the information they gathered is incorrect, then they automatically have the excuse of "oh, well that's what the website said." At least that's what I would say, but when I have a research project I tend to rely on Wikipedia. If I have unanswered questions then I simply go to the resources that were used to type up the article on Wikipedia. I also cross reference the information I found on different sites and if something doesn't match then I look for another source.<br /><br />Nancy Rubio<br />Per. 2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-88844738539300503502011-11-14T17:18:47.274-08:002011-11-14T17:18:47.274-08:00Unfortunately, I must agree when it was stated tha...Unfortunately, I must agree when it was stated that students were wretched at searching. This is mere truth. I see these exact observations in my overall search skills today. I settle for the first search result rather digging deeper, and looking to see if the information is legit. It’s unfortunate that the education system has been so focused on the “No Child left Behind,” tactic, that they have lost the whole purpose of teaching. It’s true, students are not taught critical thinking or problem solving anymore, but the material for what is on the upcoming tests. Teaching on search skills is overlooked and never touched on, and upon the entering of college, it has left us with the incapability to search correctly. Yes, the blame could be put on the teachers and the education system, but I think a big part of the blame is on the students. With the internet giving you the information within seconds, why is there a reason to keep digging deeper when you have five pages of similar information. A reason for students’ ill-searching skills has to do with laziness and lack of checking if the information is credible.<br />Miranda Perez per. 3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-2230196734386206572011-11-14T15:24:52.664-08:002011-11-14T15:24:52.664-08:00I'm guilty of googling things and always click...I'm guilty of googling things and always clicking on the top result to my search. Weirdly enough, it's always Wikipedia. I always trust that what I'm reading is true because, I dunno, it has the most hits, or however they measure how many people view the page. I dunno, doing searches quickly and efficiently isn't a bad thing. Why do people always equate that with laziness? -.-' Like the article and everyone else has said, it's knowing whether or not the source is a credible one. Part of knowing whether or not you have a credible source is knowing who the author is, and what their purpose is. I'll definitely have that in mind next time I do a web search on anything. Still, something's going to bug me later, and I'll google the answer, and I'll read the first article, and it won't bother me too much. Still, I kinda wish they'd teach stuff like this in school more often.<br /><br />Marissa Tajalle<br />P.2M.Tajallehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11823885830859298106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-85221907379487272032011-11-14T14:21:32.266-08:002011-11-14T14:21:32.266-08:00When I look things up online I am usually in a hur...When I look things up online I am usually in a hurry or trying to meet a deadline. Therefore, I seem to pick the first few sites that come up on google. This is also a generation where everything comes very easy to kids and they are programmed to take the quickest way to finish a given task. The article mentioned critical thinking, which is thinking about your thinking. I started learning this my Sophomore year with Mr. Greely and I have continued to use it throughout my life since then. I think this generation would be more respected if we took full advantage of this technology phase and learned how to use it effectively. I agree with Ryan, it is human nature to believe the "correct" answer is always at the top... <br />We need to re-route ourselves to the thought that we don't always know what the right choice is and we cannot always depend on the first site that comes up. <br /><br />Kaley Jorgensen<br />Period 2<br />absentAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06119930372782775925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-44823868518642500532011-11-14T13:06:26.221-08:002011-11-14T13:06:26.221-08:00I always pick Wikipedia, which is like the half-sp...I always pick Wikipedia, which is like the half-special needs cousin of the encyclopedia. Those cousins, although cute and cuddly, are not very reliable for information. Everyone knows that you can go in and change text, and when I say "you" I actually mean any person with fingers and a keyboard in front of them.<br />Why do I keep going back?<br />I have no idea, if anything I would say I've conformed to the ideals of the Google CEO. Not picking the top link at the top of search is trying to hard, obviously the only right answer is the one at the top anyways, right?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874600448691695397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-18197727752718368642011-11-14T12:38:39.280-08:002011-11-14T12:38:39.280-08:00I find that many people, myself included click the...I find that many people, myself included click the first site that comes up when using search engines. This is due in part to human nature, which tells us to take the easiest route, and because students are not being taught the proper ways of internet searching. As the articles mentioned it is important to think critical and search effectively. I feel teachers have taught students to think critically especially those who teach AP classes. I don't, however, students are being taught to search effectively, and you need both of these aspects to be successful. Search effectively requires having an understanding that anyone can post anything online, so you can't be positive you have valid information until you do cross referencing. The use of search engines can make our lives easier only if we are taught how to optimize the information we get from them.<br />Kelli Carrillo P.3Kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08131552584385792890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8384832010390166324.post-20143800817747528842011-11-14T11:57:55.042-08:002011-11-14T11:57:55.042-08:00The articles are very true in saying that students...The articles are very true in saying that students in this generation aren't using their tech skills to their highest potential in the fact that we just pick the first website that comes up from a search and trust it. I think we haven't been taught how to use search properly because maybe teachers and schools think we already know how to sift through all of the false information or scams? Or maybe schools feel like they've already done that for us by using filtering systems for the internet on the school's network (Righetti uses Barracuda). I think if people took the time to teach others the ways of the internet and search engines, much like what this class is doing, I think people everywhere would then have a better understanding on how to get solid and trustworthy information. And also just be more knowledgeable of what is going on in the world all around. I think these articles go well with the words of Roy Christopher, "Program or be programmed". Lets have a little more faith in ourselves and what we can do with and for technology. Instead of technology showing and telling us what to do. <br /><br />Kira Asel Period 3Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15580684747610233267noreply@blogger.com